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Strictly Media / Re: 2018 Eastern Sierra Photos
« on: October 17, 2018, 10:03:02 AM »
Back in the Summers of 1975 and again in 1976 my Father, Uncle, myself, a brother and couple of cousins made some CRAZY Cross Country backpacking loop trips in the area.  One was out of Kennedy Meadows to the Southwest corner of Emigrant Wilderness and into Northern Yosemite Twin Lakes area (not via the easy trail from Huckleberry Lake) then back over the YNP border up to Bigelow, cross country up to High Emigrant Meadow Lake over to Kennedy Lake and back out to Kennedy Meadows.

The other was from Leavitt Meadows up the West Walker River, Piute Meadows, Tower Lake, over the 'pass' via non-existent trail to Mary Lake, Tilden Lake up and down a couple of the drainages, looped around up to Twin Lakes again (from the south) past Dorothy and Sister Lakes and back to Leavitt Meadows via the trail.  I recall in 1976 at I believe was the unamed lake immediately south of and adjacent to Stella Lake - catching my largest fish ever - and on a fly with my old 5 piece Fenwick Fiberglass Backpacking Fly rod (with aluminum case) and 25+ year old Pflueger Medalist reel.  It was a 25" Cutthroat and was not only my largets fish ever, was also my first Cutthroat and before I was old enough to drive and required to buy a Fishing Liscense!

Ahh, the good old days.........

Eastern Sierra Fishing / Why so few fish this year?
« on: September 24, 2018, 10:47:23 AM »
Although I have personally not been able to get up to the ES year to speak to this first hand, many posts on this Board from our many long time residents and frequent visitors have lamented that there just doesn't seem to be many/as many fish being planted by DF&W this year.  Some of you may already be aware of the following, however I just saw it for the first time a few moments ago.

I have not researched the DF&W site for the following reference, however am copy/pasting directely from another very reputable, long established ES Resort - Silver Lake Resort in the June Lake Loop.  If you would like more details surrounding their quote of the DF&W and how they are offsetting it, click on the URL. 

'Following is the official statement from Fish Springs hatchery (as of 9/7/18).

"Unfortunately, Fish Springs Hatchery, which supplies trout for many of the waters in Inyo and Mono Counties, experienced an influx of supersaturated gasses in the groundwater supply earlier this year.  This uncontrolled environmental situation caused an outbreak of Gas Bubble Disease (GBD), whereby excess gases become trapped in the fish’s bloodstream and tissues (similar to a diver experiencing the “bends”).  This disease proved fatal for many of the hatchery’s fish, and reduced the inventory to such that there will be no further fish plants coming from Fish Springs for the remainder of the calendar year.

The smaller trout, which were on hand during the period of super saturation, are showing some signs of GBD, but not to the extent of the larger fish.  It is our expectation that we will have enough fish on hand to grow up to “catchable” size to meet our goals for the upcoming 2019 season
." '   

All the Best!  P A C

Strictly Media / Re: 2018 Eastern Sierra Photos
« on: September 22, 2018, 12:35:13 PM »
Hello WSHawkins,

Great continued thread as always.

Q - Is - "My camp site is to the right at the picknick table.  That’s Brownie Creek." - located in the Leavitt Meadows Campground or another nearby GG?  I have always wondered about that CG based on location and it's location in the lush hillside opposite the Pack Station.

Looking forwared to the rest of this photo TR as I recall in previous years' trips you had great success for the Cutthroats at Lane and Roosevelt.

All the best, P A C

Eastern Sierra Forum / Re: Red Flag Warning this week
« on: September 11, 2018, 09:02:42 AM »
You can only speculate how 'bad it might be' when the first bullet point in the official National Weather Service statement reads:

* This is a Particularly Dangerous Situation.

They are not known for being overly dramatic. 

Eastern Sierra Forum / Red Flag Warning this week
« on: September 10, 2018, 01:03:40 PM »
Just as some of the catastrophic fires are being contained, controlled if not declared 'out' - the area faces a new very concering threat.

Most of us have experienced beautiful fall weather in the ES - Hot Days, Cool Nights, usually very low humidity, sometimes very breezy when pressure fronts are shifting or passing through.

This appears to be of significant concern over the next 3 days as stated:

Let's hope and pray for the BEST and encourage others to keep it safe out there! 

Strictly Media / Re: 2018 Eastern Sierra Photos
« on: August 23, 2018, 10:32:57 AM »
Absolutely Stunning!   :clap:

What lake is this?

Any Fish info and pics from this beautiful spot?

Thanks for sharing, P A C

Strictly Media / Re: 2018 Eastern Sierra Photos
« on: August 22, 2018, 12:56:09 PM »
Don't know where you are headed however, as always, it is a beautiful photo and looks to be very enticing to keep heading up to see what lies ahead............

Thanks for sharing!

Best, P A C

Eastern Sierra Forum / Re: Missing Person Alert Yosemite 8/11
« on: August 20, 2018, 05:04:07 PM »
Sad to be the one to post this.  Posted on line in the SF Newspaper at 3:23PM today.  I am confident a more informative article we be posted shortly, somewhere on line.  Prayers for his family. 

Eastern Sierra History / Re: Cerro Gordo is for sale!
« on: August 17, 2018, 04:23:10 PM »

Incredible photo and info, as always.  Thank you.

Is it documented what/where the water source was to fill this?  From Onion Valley/Independece creek (area), or the Lower Owens from Crowley, or other?

All the Best, P A C

Anything Goes / Re: Good Morning Peter Rabbit
« on: August 17, 2018, 04:15:53 PM »
The first word that comes to mind, and seems that it applies in more ways than one:


Incredible photo.  thank you for sharing with us bj.

All the best, P A C

Eastern Sierra History / Re: Cerro Gordo is for sale!
« on: August 16, 2018, 10:58:26 AM »
Related Info not only for Cerro Gordo but other interesting CA Historical tid-bits.  Make sure to skip through the ads to get all of the story. 

Anything Goes / Re: Sleeping Bag
« on: August 08, 2018, 12:24:25 PM »
For what it's worth,

Teton is a brand that I have also admired in the past, along with a couple of 'related' brands from the same manufacturer. 

That TETON Sports Fahrenheit Sleeping Bag 20°F Temperature rating that you've found looks mighty tempting for the price and listed performance. 

In comparison to the BPS model, the TETON offers both a 'collar' and zipper length Draft Baffle Tube which will help to keep cold air out.  The description is very clear about the temp rating, so as Gary C stated, you might want to see if this model is available in a 0 degree version - however watch out for a shift from Cotton to Polyester inner liner if that is important to you.

Based on the user reviews on AMAZON, if you are using a tent, with an air mattress, cot or other pad underneath, this 20 degree rating might be just fine for the average of Eastern Sierra night temps during the 3 seasons.  Simply add thermal underwear, socks, etc for the really colder nights.

Best of luck!  P A C

Anything Goes / Re: Sleeping Bag
« on: August 07, 2018, 09:45:15 AM »

TEX is 100 % correct in his assessment, along with Gary's observation.

I've been looking into a moderate priced bag for the purposes of E.S. higher altitude car camping in the fall.

Here are some links to suggestions for what Gary and Corey are referring to.  As Gary states, quality and craftmanship are important to not only long term durability, but also actual performance of the bag when you are using it and need it - a $20 to $30 dollar savings may not result in a consistent, comfortable night's rest when you need it most.  Spread those few dollars over the course of a couple of weekend trips and it is very modest for a better product.

NOTE: Not all of the Coleman products use brushed COTTON Liners, instead they used brushed POLYESTER which can be less comfortable than cotton.   

I have long been a fan of the premium Slumberjack and premium Bass Pro Shop canvas shell sleeping bags for colder weather car camping.  As BPS and Cabella have merged, their combined assortment has been trimmed to avoid duplication.  Here are a couple of currently available suggestions that I am eyeing:

Although a bag rated to 20 F should be adequate, a bag rated to 0 F will ensure more warmth and comfort at sub Freezing temps.  a MINUS -20 F bag will likely be waaaaay too uncomfortably warm/hot on most non-sub Freezing temp nights during most of the summer.

Hope this is helpful to your search.  Please let us know whatever it is that you end up getting. 

All the best, P A C

Just discovered this bit of info.  I know there have been lots of issues due to heavy rains the past few days, had not yet heard about this until I checked for the weekly update on their site.'s_report/this_week's_report.html   

Wow Gary, 

Great TR and Photos.   :goodpost:

I would doubt that anyone would think it 'lame' to accomplish posting it any way possible.  You got it done and we can enjoy it.  Thank you for that. :clap:

So out of curiosity, in a previous post in advance of this trip you mentioned treating all of your clothing and gear in Permethrin to ward of the Mosquitoes and related insects - I am curious how that worked out?  Would you do it again in a similar situation?  Anyone experience any skin or other irritation during or after the trip?

I didn't see anyone wearing a Head Net, were those needed earlier or later in the day or were you able to dodge the pests altogether ? 

Thanks for sharing, your destinations, the reports and photos are always great!   :twothumbs:

All the best, P A C

Eastern Sierra Forum / Re: Furguson fire and smoke?
« on: July 18, 2018, 11:59:30 AM »
From my observations on various eastern sierra webcams and weather reports, the direction and level/density of smoke varies from day to day, time of day and direction of the wind patterns.

It could be worse or better by the time you arrive and vary from day to day based on above factors.

This may not seem helpful, however 'it is what it is'.  The monsoonal pattern we are entering right now might help keep some of the smoke levels (and drift) at a minimum if there is signifiant precipitation, at least over the crest on the East Side where you are headed.

Either way I hope you have a great trip no matter what.   :camping: :fishing3:

Interesting articile, interesting group of investors............

Historic California ghost town sells for $1.4 million on Friday the 13th   

Strictly Media / Re: 2018 Eastern Sierra Photos
« on: July 12, 2018, 11:56:24 AM »
WSHawkins -

Thank you as always for sharing your Trip Reports and supporting Photos.  As often stated previously, I have enjoyed this specific area for many decades and am living vicariously through your photos of your late May '18 trip.       :clap:

Great to see TPR in such apparent improved condition (at least externally and apparent structurally) vs. this time a year ago.

Incredible to compare the amount of snow and iced over lakes in 2018 vs 2017 vs 2015/16. 

Please keep all of the photos and narrative coming!  I look forward to them every morning, as I am sure many others on this board also do.

All the Best!  P A C

Eastern Sierra Forum / Tioga Pass Opening Update
« on: May 18, 2018, 05:05:22 PM »
According to the NPS Website for Yosemite - SCHEDULED opening for this coming Monday 5/21 at 9 AM.   

Always subject to change, especially with the apparently possible weather headed that way this weekend....... 

But at least it should be ready for anyone to get to the area over the NEXT weekend, Memorial Day! :flag:

And before anyone asks, I have checked both the Tioga Pass Resort and Saddlebag Lake Resort websites/facebook updates - both indicate each will remain closed for the enitre 2018 season while they take the time and apply the resources to properly repair each of their properties the right way and for the long term.....   :( :)

But remember to check their sites often for any updated info and progress reports. 

Wish that I were heading up!  All the best!  P A C

Great set up!

In addition to the above excellent suggestions from WSH,  with an emphasis on the 10 essentials, you would likely benefit from adding some proven great old standbys such as :

Lures -
A couple of small Super Dupers, particularly ones with the ‘reflection’ tape
A couple of small SILVER Kastmasters & Thomas Bouyants
small swivels - although WSH has previously shared an alternative that he might suggest again in this post he is if able.

Flies –
Mosquitoes (don’t recognize any in your assorted gray hackled flies as such)
Basic Black Ants (non-parachute)
Royal Wulffs (better floatation/attractor than a standard Royal Coachman)
Grey Hackle Yellow Body
Grey Hackle Peacock Body
A Bee pattern – McGinty or a Western Bee

All have been consistent High Sierra  ‘go to’s ‘ with great success for me over the years (decades), in addition to those that you already have in your assortment.

All the best,  P A C

Strictly Media / Re: McCloud Lake
« on: March 30, 2018, 09:22:15 AM »
Definitely a succesful attempt!  As Scout says, 'Looks Good', nice picture.

If there is any way to share the posting info and what 'Cloud' Host is being used I too would appreciate the info.

So BJ, is there perhaps a TR forthcoming on this photo.  I've not yet been to McCloud, know it is a short hike, however the image is so beautiful and appears to show a couple of ripples possibly related to the rings from rising trout (?).

I have read that this lake previously has been a restricted Cutthroat Fishery..........

Thanks for Sharing, All the best.  P A C

Eastern Sierra Fishing / Re: The Palisades
« on: March 16, 2018, 05:22:24 PM »
I'm not aware of that, but would love to learn more if that is/was happening.

I do know the former DFG attempted to establish a Grayling habitat and population in 'nearby' Lobdell Lake - however it was unsustainable due to the drought, as you refer to, which makes me wonder if that is the lake and fish you might be thinking of. (?)

All the Best.

Eastern Sierra Fishing / Re: The Palisades
« on: March 16, 2018, 01:05:30 PM »
WSH - WONDERFUL completed post and great follow up addition with the photos of the gorgeous fish found in the area!  Thank You!

I'm with BJ on his selections.

My additional guesses:

7 - A darker/stream-based Rainbow/Golden Hybrid or even possibly a Kern River Rainbow/Golden ( based on the profusion of black spots as well as Parr Marks, yet with the white tipped fins not normally found on Rainbows)

8 - the unique and 'relatively new' TIGER Trout - a Brown/Eastern Brook Hybrid primarily bred in hatcheries over the past 30+ years.  They are sterile, and are the combination of of male brook trout milt with female brown trout eggs. 

PS - I keep searching for the story about a Piano being hauled in to the LC Cabin.  I know I saw it somewhere in the past - maybe it was in an old article in a document somewhere up in the actual Big Pine Area, like at the Glacier Lodge or Pack Station or other place of business, or in some other old marketing brochure for the area.  I am now on a mission to find it.  I recall a hand drawn picture supporting the story with an image of LC  appearing as if dressed in one of his costume roles and with a 'monstrous facial expression', standing up, playing the Piano with an audience of 2 or 3. 

Thank you again for sharing your journeys and experiences with us. :clap:

All the Best!  P A C

Eastern Sierra Fishing / Re: The Palisades
« on: March 01, 2018, 10:37:43 AM »

I'm thinking mules did the heavy hauling of materials.  The front of the cabin faces the creek under a covered porch.  Must of been like heaven to stay there! :fishing4:

I recall reading years ago that Lon Chaney also had either an Upright or Baby Grand Piano hauled up there. 
The article alluded to apparently frequent, quite raucous and debauchery-filled parties in the woods at his cabin (despite the suggested, contrasting tone of 'getting away from it all' in the article posted above which I have also seen previously).

I recall that, according to the article,  to be invited to his place (the cabin) and one of his parties held there was considered quite the honor.
I wish I could locate the article and post it for reference.  Will keep looking for it as time permits. 

WSH - really enjoying this TR as always, looking forward to the next posts on this!

Al the Best!  P A C

Eastern Sierra Fishing / Re: The Palisades
« on: February 26, 2018, 09:49:45 AM »

As always, looking forward to your trip report, and in particular this area as I have been very interested and curious about it for many years, but never made the hike up canyon past the Lon Chaney Cabin, which you wonderfully chronicled in a post a couple of years back.

Thanks in advance for what I am confident will be a great TR! :clap:

All the Best!  PAC

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